A few days after I reported Walter Masocha to the police in August 2013, one day I found myself sitting on the bathroom floor, thinking to myself, "What have I done?" Will I be believed?" "Is this all worth it?" I had my phone with me, I had just prayed, and I started browsing through my phone, not looking for anything, I somehow found myself reading the story of a woman who was making headlines at that time. Her name was Ese Walter, she had written a blog about her former Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo. I remember my heart racing as I read her story in her own words. I felt some sense of liberation, because this woman was writing things I was going through, and I was encouraged by her honesty and bravery. She came out with her story and faced a lot of backlash from church members calling her a whore and liar, but she stood firm in her voice for justice, and I believe God heard her. I remember reading through the comments on her blog, church members saying Ese Walter was attacking a man of God. Even though the church members called her immoral, loose, fame and money hungry and all sorts, to God she proved to be a virtuous woman and today she is happily married to Nigerian Radio Personality and Inspirational Speaker Benny Ark. Ese Walter was not raped by Pastor Fatoyinbo, she had an affair with him, yet rightly in her view it was spiritual abuse and manipulation. I have chosen to share her story because there are a number of women who have reported on this blog that they feel confused because they felt like they consented to Walter Masocha touching them inappropriately. Dear women even if you had an affair with Prophet Mosocha, its still religious abuse because you were the vulnerable one and he used his power as a pastor to sleep with you. My dear readers, with permission from my dear friend Ese Walter, be encouraged by her story...
ESE WALTER: MY AFFAIR WITH PASTOR FATOYINBO
This article contains stories that most ‘church people’ don’t want to address. So, if you are one of those living in denial and covering up crap going on in the church, this is where you should stop reading.
With that my dear readers I leave with a video I recorded today and a selfie I took today of my 2015 look, box braids. Hope you are encouraged by the video dear readers. Have a blessed and fruitful week!Now, for the rest of us, please sit down and switch on your open mind. I want to talk about something I have kept bottled up inside for longer than necessary. I have also decided to use real names, as my defence for any accusation of slander is justification. I tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but. However, feel free to throw your doubt around but know that I am past the shaming game (where victims of abuse are shot down by blame) I am no longer a victim but a survivor who is sharing her experience to help others caught in same web of abuse, guilt and shame. We only get to live once right? So here, it goes…I recently came to know this event too was abuse (recently here means about 6 months ago). It has literally been eating me up having to drive by another billboard advertising preachers, or hearing his name, or even trying to ask about the validity of the entire salvation story and whether or not there is a God that truly watches over his people. That being said, I’m just going to say it as it is. This is a recap of my affair with Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo of COZA (Common Wealth Of Zion Assembly) Abuja chapter. This affair I have come to know as a form of abuse as you would see the different elements of abuse very present.
I met Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo many years ago. I was getting bored of the church I was attending and someone suggested COZA. At the time, I had never heard about it. My friend said, go there, I’m sure you would enjoy the word. But he also gave me a strong warning. He said he would advice that I remain a member only and not join the workforce. I agreed. The first time I attended COZA, I felt it was my church and decided I was going to plant my ass there. About eleven months had gone by and I was still attending the services quietly and faithfully. I really did like the church. One day a worker in the church approached me that the senior pastor wanted to see me.Me? I thought. Why would the senior pastor want to see me? Not the second man but the head nigga in charge? Ok na! I started to think my sin was oozing so bad the pastor could tell I needed Jesus. (Poor old me.) I saw him at the end of the second service (they had two services at the time) and he said to me that he would like me to work with him. I knew I had no intentions of becoming a pastor so I had to ask in what capacity. He said he’d like for me to join a department, preferably the Pastoral Care Unit (PCU).A few weeks later, against my friend’s advice not to join the workforce, I was a PCU member. All of a sudden, I had some status in church. I was ‘somebody.’ Dress had to be on point, hair, shoes and what not… As workers, we were literally trying to outshine each other or so it seemed. Anyways, I felt like I was a privileged member of an elite circle. Hehehe. (It did feel good though, for the most part.)About a year after joining the workforce, I was on my way to London for a Masters degree program that would last two years. As was the rule for workers travelling, I wrote to say I would be away for 2 years and Pastor Biodun Fotoyinbo asked that I keep in touch by sending him my number and email when I had settled in London so he “makes sure I continue in the faith” because according to him, people loose their faith when they leave home and he wanted to make sure I didn’t. So, on that note, as soon as I got a phone line in London, I was sure to call ‘my pastor’ to say I arrived safe, had settled in and also gave my phone number.We had spoken a few times especially when COZA started to stream online. I always watched and would give feedback on quality of production and share a little bit on the challenges I faced settling in a new land. One evening, Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo called me that he was coming to London and needed me to help him make some hotel bookings as the person who was meant to do it couldn’t get it done (this was rather strange as I had never been involved in his travel itinerary) Later that day, he said it had been sorted and my help would not be required but that he would like me to arrange a cab to pick him up from Heathrow. I was happy to help my pastor from Nigeria and even saw it as a privilege. (I would later come to learn that all of this was a calculated attempt to hatch a plan that I suspect was set in motion when I was asked to join the workforce.)The cab guy was there to get him the next day and when he arrived, he called to ask why I didn’t accompany the cab to pick him up (again, this was strange but I stopped my mind from overanalyzing the situation as I knew I had no business with his visit to London) About two hours later, he called me and said he would like to see me. When I arrived his hotel, I called from the reception but he asked that I come upstairs. I got to the room and tried to stop my mind from thinking why I was going to his room. As he opened the door and invited me in, I had to speak to my heart to stop its palpitations. My better judgment asked me not to go into the room but the kind of reverence I had for Pasotr Biodun Fatoyinbo bordered on fear and I steeped into that room.“Care for a drink?” Asked Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo.“No sir,” I said.“You don’t have to be shy Ese, even if it’s alcohol, feel free and order what you want.” I wasn’t sure I heard my pastor asking me to order alcohol. I imagined it was a test and ignored the voice inside that was saying, “I’d have henny and coke please.” He proceeded to ask how I had been coping in London and if I was a committed member of any church. He also said he thought there was something special about me and wanted to know that I had not strayed from my faith. I really thought he had heard I was doing something I shouldn’t while in London but tried my best to focus on the conversation instead of my straying thoughts. He kept telling me to relax and feel comfortable with talking to him. After a few minutes, he asked that we go to the roof of the hotel as his room was a pent suite and had a connecting door to the roof.
While there, he sat on a reclining chair and asked me to come sit on his laps. This was a bit awkward for me and I froze for a moment as I asked why. He said he had told me to feel free with him and loosen up. I found myself strolling to sit on his laps. At that moment, I felt like a little girl who was experiencing something her mind couldn’t fathom. He asked me to kiss him and all I could think about was seeing him preach on the pulpit back in COZA Abuja, Nigeria, which was my home church. He again said ‘feel free Ese.’ And asked again, that I kiss him.A few hours later, let’s just say, we were rolling under the sheets. It felt as though my mind had paused. I am not saying I was jazzed, (although it’s possible I was in some trancelike state and didn’t know it but I just was so afraid that I couldn’t say or think otherwise.) That was the beginning of this affair. A sexual affair that went on for a little over a week, DAILY!I can hear somebody’s mind thinking, ‘well, you weren’t raped.” And I remember a pastor I opened up to when I couldn’t take all the mind games asking if I seduced him. No, I didn’t seduce him and no, I wasn’t raped but I felt trapped in this affair. Come to think of it, how could I have seduced him when I wanted nothing from him? I mean, I was too busy minding my business in London trying to get through with my masters program and I was overly comfortable. And even if I wanted to seduce anyone, it wouldn’t be a married man, not to mention a married pastor.What I couldn’t reconcile the whole time, was how the same person who preached against the very things we were doing (i.e drinking in pubs, fornicating, committing adultery) was the same person endorsing and encouraging it.
At some point, I got really confused about what Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo and I were doing that I had to ask how he handles it. I will never forget what he said to me. He said and I quote, “I will teach you a level of grace that you don’t understand.” My mind couldn’t fathom that somehow grace was enough covering for not just fornication on my path, adultery on his path and the many lies that was bound to follow what we were doing that was clearly abominable. I somehow dealt with the thoughts and fears that followed on my path. He had said to me that he wanted me to be his girlfriend and he would take me around the world and spoil me with money and things. Somehow, money had never been one of the things that motivated me (I am from a home where all my needs have been adequately met) In all my ‘badness’ through finding myself, I never did things I did for money but more of rebellion against rules and authority.Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo also said to me that he had a dream where I exposed what was happening to the media. Said it was all over the place and that people were calling me the girl that caused chaos in COZA. He also said I should remember the bible said to “touch not God’s anointed.” I immediately started to rebuke the devil and said I could never do anything like that. I was almost swearing with my entire family as I thought really I had touched God’s anointed by submitting my body to be used. Little did I know at the time that all of these were ways to mess with my mind and even manipulate my thoughts.Fast-forward a few months later, I was back in Nigeria and my church had become uncomfortable. Anytime I sat in church and listened to Pastor Biodun preach, I felt shame. I finally sent him a message saying I wasn’t comfortable anymore. I was confused and needed to talk about what had happened. He said I should meet him to talk and I did. It was a really weird meeting for me especially when he tried to kiss me at our meeting. I finally realized at this point that he couldn’t help me. I thought God was angry with me and I couldn’t pray so I decided to withdraw completely from COZA. This was the beginning of my mental torture. I couldn’t talk to my family because already, I was the only one attending a different church and somehow my mom never liked the idea. As the days went by I tried to use drinking and smoking to cover up the deep shame and guilt I was battling with. But as soon as the high was over, the thoughts came back and I felt stuck like I couldn’t move forward.I felt I had to talk to someone and I decided to speak to my then good friend, Ernest Akale but unfortunately for me, Mr. Ernest did not have the capacity to hold what I said to him. He broke down completely the days that followed and I found myself having to pause how I was feeling and what I was struggling with to help my friend be strong. After a while, he withdrew from not just me but his then fiancé and friends. I had to then tell the fiancé what had caused it (she suspected we were having an affair so I had to clear the air) To my surprise she was a lot stronger than her man and told me to suck it up (I’m paraphrasing). She said if she were me, she wouldn’t leave the church but stay to torment Pastor Biodun and collect money from him. Ok! That sounded extreme for me, as my intention was not to blackmail but to heal my broken self. Anyways, I finally found the courage to speak to my then unit head who said he was going to talk to Pastor Biodun but didn’t have the liver to do so. Before long, the story was spreading and naturally getting twisted.I went to a new church and it seemed like the COZA bug had chased me there. The pastor would always refer to COZA as some example and each time that was done, it seemed like a spear was thrust through my chest. One day, I broke down in the service and started crying uncontrollably, as I couldn’t take another mention of COZA and the pictures it painted in my head.
Very long, boring story cut short, for the last 5 months I gave the whole church thing a big space and break. I wasn’t sure I believed in God. I wasn’t sure I understood what it meant when people said ‘Jesus saves” and I definitely wasn’t sure how to deal with the mental torture that was affecting not just me but my relationships with family and friends. I was very unstable, fearful and worst of all guilty. I got a chance to talk to Pastor Folarin of COZA Lagos Chapter, popularly called Pastor flo about everything. I made an effort to reach out to him because I realized the right thing to do was talk to an elder in the church and seek some sort of remedy to a wrong I believed had been done me.Instead, Pastor Flo said, Pastor Biodun had confessed to him and they had ‘talked’ about it and somehow that was supposed to be Ok. He asked what it was I wanted coming to talk to him about it when I did, I told him I realized what happened between Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo and I was wrong and not just that I felt abused and manipulated. I also said I thought it was wrong for Pastor Biodun to go on preaching without taking time to deal with his personal character flaws. I said I thought he was danger to all the young women that attended the church. Come to think of it, maybe he meant if I wanted something monetary or material (as someone had suggested when I opened up to her) but the truth is, I never wanted his money (or is it the church member’s money.) All I wanted was to meet with him and have him accept that he misled me, betrayed his wife and the church he pastors. I wasn’t the only lady in COZA who had been a victim of his sexcapades and manipulative patterns but I was the one who could come back after months of struggle with not just my faith but also my affair with him. And I wanted to set things right. I wanted to talk to Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo maybe for closure and I felt like I needed an apology because he played the“touch not my anointed” card to keep me locked in guilt, shame and fear when all along it was a calculated plan and I dare say, it started when he asked me to join the workforce.
Not to mention the audacity to talk about teaching me a level of grace I didn’t understand. I had no intention of understanding a grace that would permit me to go on doing things that were wrong and what’s worse having to carry the burden for almost a year.Different surprising advises came up in the weeks that followed the rumour making rounds. I was told to hush because Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo had been a cultist in the past and could send people to shut me up. All my so-called friends in COZA withdrew from me and treated me like I had the plague. What was worse was Pastor Flo finally saw my then pastor to ‘talk’ about what had happened with Pastor Biodun and lied that it happened once and was a mistake. My question then became, ‘do these people even care how broken I had become?’ ’do they care about the emotional and spiritual welfare of the people they were pastoring?’ The sad answer was NO. Most of us old members of COZA kept leaving but they couldn’t care less. What was important was to keep growing the church and having more and more cars with stickers that read “More than enough.” Back then, I always felt horrible when I saw another car drive past me with the sticker. I was breaking, I was struggling but no one could help. All they could do was ask me to hide so Pastor Biodun’s goons don’t hurt me. And then the interesting one was if I had evidence to prove my claim. Let me just say here that, it isn’t a claim, it’s a confession to free me from all of the guilt and shame I have had to live with for no reason at all. (That being said, I have evidence to prove all I have said here, the latest being a 58 minutes recording of my meeting with Pastor Flo a few months back)This is my confession and I cannot begin to describe how much weight has been lifted off of my shoulders just pouring the truth out about what went down. So, to all my ex COZA friends gossiping about me, get your facts right. To those who said they’d help me deal with the pain but didn’t, I forgive you, I have learnt how to deal with it and I am doing just fine. To those who fear for my safety saying Pastor Biodun would send people to shut me up, I really have gone past fearing for my life. To live is gain and to die is Christ (or how does Paul say it again?) And to the only person who ever supported me through it all, thank you, I am learning to be brave. Please don’t think I am perfect in all of this but in line with living my authentic life and putting all forms of abuse behind me, this is where I press the stop button and stop the bleeding. This is where I break the silence and call the church to stand up for what it has been commissioned to do. If you will not enter the Kingdom, please don’t stop others who are trying to enter.I still remember when I used to nurse the idea of digging up emails, text messages, hotel billings (as once I used my card to pay for his room when his master card failed to work) to prove there was an affair. It was pathetic. Why for the love of heaven was I trying to dig up evidence? I am satisfied setting the record straight. I am ready for any shaming or bashing that would follow because the truth is, because of what I have suffered and come through, I am really not moved by what people say or think about me anymore. I am a stronger woman and a damn abuse survivor seeking to connect with other victims of abuse to show them how to deal with the shame, hurt and guilt and how to come out stronger. Turning their mess into their message.I am Ese Walter and I have gone through all forms of abuse from family, boyfriends, my ex pastor and some strangers not to break me, but so I stand and so I qualify to help victims. My scars have qualified me and when all is said and done, I will still be standing. I AM WOMAN, I BEND, I DON’T BREAK!
2015 new look, Box Braids. Selfie with no foundation make up on. Nino said they are the nicest braids he has ever seen and appreciated...
My new clothing line I.AM.JEAN wear is coming soon. This is a sneak peak of one of my designs.
54 comments:
Jean Jean Jean! You seem to be one confused woman! I am not a supporter of Masocha but you seem to be doing everything you can to pin this man down! This woman had an AFFAIR with a married Man Of God! I am not justifying Pastor but there is no justification for her whoredom either! You are trying too hard to an Activists Jean slow down and calm down. You openly defended Faith Mutema and now this whore! I have no time to sypmathise with chihure Jean, and I am fed up with women like you justifying all sorts of loose behavior from women in the name of abuse! I thought Agape was being too harsh on you but am now thinking twice, birds of the same feathers flock together!
Hahahaha clothing trying to copy Sandra you envy her so much pathetic
jean are telling the truth. I'm surprised even men as bold as they are, are afraid to report the abuse. hakuna prophet this walter doesn't even know how to fake it.
😄09:16, Why do you think women are still underpaid than men in this day and age in the whole world whilst they do the same Jobs as their male counterparts?
Do you think it's also something to do with how the world thinks of the streagnth of a woman, their mind(brain) and wether they deserve more money than men.
They are classified to have a weak mind among other things, so in this case yes it's manipulation by using the ability of the mind ,authority or position to manipulate only to cover it up by touch not the annointed.
Why do you want women take equal responsibility when it comes to sex but when it comes to equal/same duties you give them less pay, opportunities etc etc .
It's people like you, who use women as objects to their liking.
So what were you supporting Jean for and not Masocha?!
Let's have it in short in your own words!!!!
Although Jean remains involved,This platform is no longer a case about Jean against Masocha and his subordinates my friend.
Read the papers and news to find out more.
It's now a platform for those abused and to help those who might be wondering what abuse is so as to indentify it easily. So please you don't need to support Jean at all otherwise you could be here for the wrong reasons.
There are 5 charges of sexual assault among other forms of abuse Masocha could be facing come April.
There still remain victims ripped and traped not knowing what to do, so these articles will help them come out and to put in your own words nail Masocha.
And yes you are right to say nail, Why not if he did nail Minors pounding his 10inch nail inside with a 18stone body of raw flesh as alleged. So are you trying to say those minors mahure since they know about fornication?
Think before you talk Supporter.
We are talking brainwashing at its best by those pastors only to use the scripture of touch not the anointed.
This case is different to the woman who went paying for sex , even tho, What did you want that woman to do? Just sit and wait until ..........or maybe buy a vibrator instead.Powered by those Chinese batteries and what if the power runs out in the middle of the act, stop go out but some more batteries and start again, lol. Dai uriwe. 1 battery is $1x2 lasting 3min maximum at full power. So please please please I don't want to get into calculations here otherwise you will even find she might have used less money as compared to buying a vibrator.Lol , food for thought.
The husband apologised as so did the wife and that was the end:
Now these Self appointed/anointed Man Of God being talked here have no morals at all and use the bible and the weakness of the vulnerable to satisfy their flesh and material wants.
So please Supporter,please please don't get agitated like the Agapeans!!
Stay Calm,don't attack Jean for no reasons, it's not for you to judge.
Moses!!
Unrevised material!!
Ps: Don't be an oppressor of women, they are God's favourite if you didn't know, so chances of losing a case against a woman are 99.9999999..........%
Lol mazvionaka
It's who is comparing cause you are busy checking who is put these clothes first but whatever, I think they suit Jean better than Sandra Who? Iwewe hauna kana chemukati even the nice looking box braids on a powder free face of a beautiful well talented mother of four lovely children !!!!!!
Moses you never fail to deliver!
Thank God not all women are like this Nigerian woman
At what point do you women want to take responsibility of your action
A pastor coming from Nigeria asking you to come to his room the answer is a resounding I can pastor I am behind with my studies or I will bring my friend with me and wait for the reaction
Please can someone tell me how this Nigerian woman was vulnerable? - with masocha he promised the vulnerable that he will pray for them and their papers will be approved, they will get a husband , HIV will be treated but this girl I don't see her vulnerability
she willingly went not once but a whole week
I strongly believe in equity of men and women but this constant cry of abuse when you went to a pastor hotel room after a phone call compromises the position of women
Because wat you saying is we are weak if a man in position ask us to drop our knickers we wet ourselves
The failure to take response action compromise the equity between man n woman
Moses do you have a mind of your own . Get out of Jean bottom please . She has got a man . Stop sucking up its nauseating Before you say I belong not to Agape You need to find yourself.
I thought I was the only one wondering how this woman was abused.Was she forced to open her legs. jean stop jumping on every bandwagon of a woman who cries abuse. We don't need another Betty Makoni one is enough. Thanks.
Zvakaomanxku
Viola needs to read this post. This post is for Masocha concubines.
Jean thank you.
True, don't forget the pastor is the one who made the first move and even after the cab was booked invited the lady to his hotel room. Who of the women in Agape would say no if Daddy asked them to come to the slaughter house?
The Pastor offers her a drink and suggest that the lady should feel free even to take alcohol,What?
Inviting her to sit on the lap was out of order although when we look at this in Agape you might find it cool as it is or was the norm to sit on daddy's lap,but can I say that at this time these are all calculated moves by the pastor to corner his prey. By the time the innocent unsuspecting lady sits on the pastors lap, the oxygen saturation of his bottom half has already dropped and the parts down under are now gasping for relief, there is no longer going back as the pastors goes to request a kiss and yet one more time when it was not administered the first time with those four letter words sprinkled at the end ( Feel Free) and if it was daddy, it would sound like FEEL FREE MY DAUGHTER.
The woman does not remember how she was air lifted but only realised rolling in some wrinkled sheets where she was body crashed by the deceiving Dog of Man.
This is how most first born babies came to be on earth. Well calculated moves by Boyfriends only to leave the town when they hear of pragnancy.
And to those judging the poor lady without asking even about the age of the two I say to you wise up. Benzi Bvunza is good.
Then to some anonymous talking about Jean having a boyfriend. Can I say that I think most of you people are confused. One you say I'm Jean the next minute I have changed and I'm nolonger Jean but after Jean. Jean's email address is on the blog if I wanted her then what's stopping me. I'm not like Dog Of Man who changes from archbishop, apostle,Morden Moses, lion of Judah, Jesus and as said recently said by one that he is like Daniel.
I stand against any form of abuse
Moses!!
Unrevised material!!
Ps: the verdict is this Pastor abused this lady and his position according to the definition of a Pastor by offering sexual healing than spiritual growth.
Congratulations on your clothing line Jean. You are one multi talented beautiful woman. 2015 has to be your year end of Agape can only be your beginning. You do your research and journalism well, all your blogs do emulate the message you are trying to bring to people. Some are failing to see Walter Masocha is written all over the article.
At least Ese Walter was single, which still doesn't make it right, but at least she had no other man to answer to.
Walter Masocha on the other hand makes married women sit on his lap, cook him and serve him food, massage his ass, change his bedsheets, then the hugs and kisses.
Well done Jean, Masocha and Pastor Naija same fanana. If only we had more women like you Jean and Ese Walter telling us every minute details of what happened with these fake men of cloths, I'm sure there would be an epidemic of hit blogs.
Moses you are incredibly stupid .are you saying women are not capable of saying NO
THE age of the pipol is neither here nor there . this woman was not under the clutches of the pastor - she was miles away .
she only needed to not have visited the hotel there was no reason to .
This is not a stupid woman this is a girl doing masters if naïve why not seek counsel with friends mothers aunts - thats what we do
why go not once but the whole week. if we not careful we going to have woman after being sexed by men claim abuse
again we don't hear the other side - did she report to police ?
moses you need to wake up
http://zimbabwenewsday.co.uk/head-united-methodist-uk-exposed-sex-scandal/
Vamwewo pastor avo. Imi woye kudenga kure uku
Sorry for not waking up at your request anonymous 21:54(Pipol,Pipo)
Anyway, Can I say, I have a right to be stupid. At times it's good to be stupid cause you get to learn more. You sometimes need to excercise your right to be stupid, just like you have just done.
You will also find that it's always better if not good,to read with your mind than your emotions otherwise you end up thinking people are stupid.
So here is my reply to you.
I never said women are not capable of saying no and even most of the time when they say No, most African men they hear a resounding Yes.
That's why I said most first born babies came to earth due to this No but meaning Yes excuse. They don't take a no for a no once their better bottom half starts working.
But then as a believer we now know God has his plans and so we give Glory.
Secondly, it can happen in a split of a second and before you know it , you have been injected and you wake up only to find yourself in those wrinkled sheets like the poor woman did.
Also, you have to understand the that the moves of a preditor are WELL calculated that the No answer is put in some shelf before you know it.
They know how prey on the vulnerable. Try to watch some animal documentaries where they kill for a meal. They target only one and isolate it from the others and once they focus on it , that's a done deal. This is identical to the decide and rule principle daddy uses. The talk of not saying anything to anyone, not talking to those who have walked away from Agape etc etc.
You might at this point want to ask yourself why the Pastor did not do it in whilst in Nigeria. It's for the reasons above .
Once the lady had been isolated it became easy for him to pounce on her.
Doing a Masters degree does not determine your mental capacity in dealing with different issues in your life but mostly just that particular subject.
You know you don't want this to happen but then that No has already been taken away until such a time when you realize I'm mot suppose to be doing this. At this time your mind is already trapped and it can go on for a period
From the sounds of it , you seem to sound like a woman and I think you know what I mean.
I mean you can have your own survey if you want and find out what Im trying to say.
Some women are said to have said no but meaning yes,lol. Now it's good countries like England will teach both men and female that a No is a No.
Moses!!
Unrevised marterial!!
Ps: The best way to have sex is by consent. If someone yes then you can go ahead especially in this country wether married or not otherwise you might wake up only to find yourself behind bars:
The person who called the lady was her Pastor(Daddy)not a nobody.
To be honest I don't understand why this woman couldn't just say no. There's a famous pastor who I wil refrain from naming who asked me to go to London with him to a hotel. He said he wanted to show me nice places in London. I simply said no and stopped answering his calls and cut all ties with him. Very simple. Ese wasn't vulnerable in my opinion. It seems she had an established stable life. Its not like she needed to be prayed for for a visa or something. She kept going to the hotel for more on her own accord! If I had said yes to the lawyer who was dealing with my asylum case, to my boss who promised me opportunities and to that pastor who promised that he I would get an interview with Ben tv and to every other man who promised me all sorts I would have been an emotional wreck by now. It doesn't matter who it is sometimes a simple NO will save u all the drama.. .in my case the pastor I am talking about knew I wanted to get married and he said he wanted to come and pray for me at my house. When I asked whether he was coming with Mai pastor and he said Mai pastor is busy it didn't seem right to me so I said I would see him after church on Sunday. that plus the phonecall saying he wanted to take me to London I stopped all contact with him. In the court of law Ese was a consenting adult saka hapana nyaya. The only sad part is the pastor was meant to be a man of God guiding saints. But mind u even the bible says havasi vese vanoti Mwari Mwari.........
Moses - I don't want to reduce this to some kind of me v you
Bottom line - this girl was very capable of saying NO and more importantly not get on the tube to go to hotel
Most women who I know - who are worth their salt and have total love and respect for themselves never do such thing
She was not deliberately isolated .
From the presented information I find it difficult to buy into this story .
for a whole week she was sexed and she now claims abuse -
moses - hear a woman speak - read entry at 1052 - by a woman who was very vulnerable
this is a woman speaking moses
I don't know how you can write like a woman Moses! Most of the time the women who think they are strong are actually the weakest! Those who are described by Moses are the strong ones because the face the TRUTH about MOST women.
Jean is it possible to get the Tel. number of the officer in charge of Walter's case in Scotland, or any in the prosecution team. Please can we have it.
http://zimbabwenewsday.co.uk/head-united-methodist-uk-exposed-sex-scandal/
Ahhhh this is what causes most not to be Christians. Divorce rate among them is do high. Cheating is do high. My goodness everything is up side down. God help us all. Women and men! Now this is UMC and they will be suspended but with these Pentecostal churches no one can suspend them because it's their church. A family owned business. My goodness. It took a bold man to say it to another man.
Moses please comment on this one. All the anonymous people comment on this one. Why this woman could not say no to going to Germany? Why the pastor asked the woman to meet her in Germany. Who paid for the shopping let alone the ticket! The hotel. Is it not the tithes and offering and thanksgiving from struggling men and women? Thought it was Arch Bishop Masocha only. No it's everyone. Only the Arch Bishop took advantage of kids and that is a big problem. Adults who were taken advantage of that is another story but underage no ways this is wrong. We demand justice. Let's is not get derailed. It's about taking advantage of the underage. The adults maybe but like I said who knows. This is a apusa apusa situation were adults are concerned. Please Moses I want to see you comment!
These women are breaking up homes. Children are suffering. Please all adults consider your ways! This is not peculiar to Zimbabweans but everywhere. Only others get caught and are exposed by the brave. Like the brave Jean and the brave man in this UMC saga!
16:59 I would have loved to shed a bit more light to you and other readers but will rest it.
I know how the mind of a man works and have dealt with such cases for years. I understand how hard it is for you to pick the tell tale signs hence your stance in not opening your mind. But if you have been sexually active in the past the chances are it has happened to you. I mean the calculated moves whether by your husband or boyfriend. But will rest it here
There is more to that story than just saying No!
Moses!!
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Jean, I find it very hard to believe someone going back to the same hotel 7 times and turn round to claim abuse. If it was the 1st day of would give Ese the benefit of doubt. There are many men out there who are serving time in jail because they decided to end relationships with women they have been seeing who then turn the tables against them and claim rape just to fix them. I think we should be encouraging one another to avoid seeing these pastors alone because after all has been said and done, they are human beings and capable of doing the list expected of them. Avoid environments that make you vulnerable.
I remember a case that happened in the United Methodist Church in Zimbabwe, a woman sent a distress call to the Pastor through her maid. The male Pastor dashed to her house alone and upon arrival he was told by the maid that madam was in her room and couldn't move an inch. Pastor went straight into the room that was suddenly closed and locked behind him by the woman who was stark naked. The woman made one request, "we have set in here now or l scream and call for my neighbors to come and witness the rape attempt. See, we are alone here in my bedroom, no one will ever believe your story because you are compromised already because of where you are alone". Real story. The pastor should have taken his wife or any other second person who would witness in future rainy days. Point being Ese and any other woman or man should avoid seeing people of God alone for whatever reason. There are women pastors who are abusing boys and men in the church, it cuts across. From the foregoing it admits of no debate that Ese used her heart to think and not her head.
Jean, the fact that you rushed to Masochas' so hotel room at 3am knowing that prophetess Judith had left can be interpreted from two viewpoints,
(a) You had been brainwashed and abused into thinking that there were was anointing for sure in the sheets. But to then get into those sheets alone with the 'prophet' was asking for too much 'blessings'. The biological makeup of a human being will cause it to function in the normal way. MaPastor aya vanhuwo like everyone else.
(b) Or you knew what you were going to see Masocha for at 3am at a hotel, in his room. You have just let the cat out of the bag Jean. All this while looking was wondering what could have happened.
Yes because of his position Masocha violated you, abused his position to abuse you. But as church congregants, men and women alike, we must learn to take responsibility of our actions and inactions. Thanks Jean for bringing forth this story which leads feel is pregnant with lessons. The lessons that we learn are more important than the mistakes made by Ese and Jean, I mean the errors of judgment, or is it the errors of both commission and omission on their part? Keep on bringing the stories.
Lol ende kunyeba zvakunoita. She's forgetting she was a married woman when she was in Agape. So where was her husband when she was supposedly in Masocha's bed at 3am!
Pfutseke mhani iwe! Dad dad kuita sei kwacho. Dofo
Moses you are not the moral bearer of the world neither do you know understand African men
if you as an African man you down look at other African men that's your stupidity .
Human behaviour is not limited to continent you come from you idiot .Ched Evans case . African men we fully understand wat no means but we also question the morality of visiting pastors hotel at 0300 when you are a married woman and going to pastor hotel 7 times a week then cry abuse.
I to a great deal support Jean as there well documented evidence of vulnerability but herself has admitted that some of her action where not right and the man of god should have protected her
Jean - I think to remain credible I humbly suggest you say/ write about your experience and your life in Agape.
To talk about Clinton/ monica and to be be a self elected spokesperson for woman is making yourself open to questioning and puts your credibility in question
No one has ever said shut to a woman claiming abuse but if as a person you tell a stort don't expect educated pipol not to question the validity of that story and that is not saying shout up
Dad is always surrounded by EE's,lol.
Reflection is needed here.
What is an EE? Sounds like a Green Bomber to me.
What is the Need of EE's
Why is he always surrounded by EE's?
What has happened to him to be surrounded by EE's
Do you know if he is also surrounded by God?
Is God not enough to Surround him?
Do the EE's sorround him 24/7?
Are these EE's paid and paying tax ,do they claim benefits.or they just have the left overs from your DaDa or maybe forced labour in the name of God'd Work?
If they are paid , how much is it and where is it coming from?
Do they need training and what is the training for?
If training is needed,Is the training conducted by a professional registered company that is regulated?
How can you easily identify an EE from the rest of the crowd around Dada, Etc etc.
Do they record every event and if so to who?
And back to the top,
What are these EE's ?
Moses!!
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Ps :I will try to contribute and help where I can and if only time allows. We all unique in everyway so I see no problem getting to examine our facts and opinions in order to get revelation of the truth.
But I also worry that some of the youth commenting here have been subjected to neglect by their families and later brainwashed so they can not read deep into a story like this youth who is shouting,I was there Dada Dada EE EE. You can sense she is screaming to be heard.
09:49 , sorry could hardly get a point in all that you trying to put across but I get some sense that you are not happy with ME or should I say my findings.
For your own infor that is the truth and just to say many more cases go unreported in Africa.
But you might want to ask your mum if they planned on having you, that's if you are the first born maybe you might get better explanation and understand what really happens to women and don't pretent not to be an African just to put your point across, there is nothing bad with Africa but just that we really need educate one another and be willing to adopt some of the things that could improve our morals and where accountability is required.
Moses!!
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Ps: someone said about a pastor being invited to some house in a trap.
This is why we need to adopt some Models/Polices and learn about the risk for example, A LONE WORKER , all these and other and his they can be changed to suit the Spiritual Arena. I think this will help the vulnerable cause as it is now we have the DBS checks being ignored by these Churches in the name of Trust and Faith.
Sorry need to go but just think about it
Be blessed!!
Is Moses and Nino the same person .
Moses could you put your photo up - I know you wont - but it would be good to prove you not Nino
Jean - you really need to state facts otherwise your credibility is coming into question.
In my mind you had created an impression of you alone with Masocha in his bed sheets - until the pipol present ( they need help as well ) started challenging your account that's when you started being very clear with what happened ie that there were other pipol - you were 2 in the room - all this came wen your account was challenged
What masocha done was evil but don't put your reputation in question please Jean - we all want this guy locked
Good topical issue with some sensible comments and arguments being advanced but unfortunately most well-meaning contributors are conflating issues and ending up misdirecting themselves. It is important to separate issues here in order to deal with them effectively. Even women of otherwise impeccable morals can also fall for predators because the scourge of power can corrupt those subject to it. You should separate the moral and the thrust of this story from your disdain of the author.
You need to understand that a glass of water at the halfway mark is either half full or half empty depending on who is making that consideration but that does not change the fact that the water in the glass is at the halfway mark. So pastors having inappropriate relations with their subjects is morally and ethically wrong whether those untoward relations are consensual or not.
Note that I use the term untoward relations because it's a blanket term to cover relations which a reasonable person might consider inappropriate and could be sexual, financial or otherwise.
So the overriding issue in the present discussion is men of God (or supposed men of God depending on where one stands) having untoward sexual relations with congregants whether by consent or not. This is a cancer in God's house which understandably stirs raw emotions and outrage in fair minded people. We are all agreed it needs to be addressed. So the overriding objective is to address unsavoury relations between pastors(and others in authority) and their subjects. Whether such pastors are good or bad people or whether the women involved are good or bad people is an entirely different discussion which calls for it's own forum.
Once you allow yourself to think critically like this, you realise that this issue splits into two different sides of the same coin as follows:
1. Pastors or other leaders in positions of authority abusing their power and authority to have untoward relations with church members.
2. Women with skewed moral compasses preying on pastors or any other men in positions of authority seducing them or just throwing themselves at them.
No fair minded person condones either as they are both morally reprehensible and despicable. Fortunately or unfortunately they are so hostile to each other and so mutually exclusive that you have to shelve one momentarily in order to deal with the other effectively. Both stir raw emotions so once you allow your strong views on one to influence your opinion or consideration you can never constructively debate the issue.
I hope you are still with me. My reading of Jean's article and the Ese Walters piece cited therein is that they are addressing thread 1 above. So I will address that too, not because I'm taking sides but because that is what the article under analysis is addressing. I am open to debating thread 2 on an appropriate platform.
Thread 1 subdivides as follows:
1(a) good or bad women being seduced and WILFULLY having affairs with pastors or other authoritative figures because of brainwashing, manipulation, indoctrination or intimidation.
(b) good or bad women RELUCTANTLY having untoward sexual relations with pastors/powerful men because of brainwashing, manipulation, indoctrination or intimidation.
(c) good or bad women wilfully or reluctantly having untoward sexual relations with pastors/powerful men out of their volition
(d)good or bad pastors being seduced by opportunistic women like the one in the UMC case cited by Anonymous 02:25
Note that I use the phrase 'good or bad' for both the pastors and the women because that again is a different discussion which should not cloud the current one.
All the above scenarios are wrong (maybe equally) but that does not detract from the lessons to be learnt from them singularly or collectively.
to be continued....
I don't see where the misunderstanding is with this Ese story. She was sexed all week enjoying multiple orgasms that's why she kept going back for more and more. We all agree to that.
But that's not the moral of the story. The questions we should be asking are Who sexed her? Why did he sex her and what happened after he was done sexing her. If everyone tries to answer these questions, you will get to the moral (or the lack of) of the story. The Pastor is a horne dog who hid behind his bible. He shouldn't be preaching to anyone, not even to himself, end of story.
But judging by her pic, Ese, she's a very attractive woman, like Jean, maybe beautiful women are cursed by their own beauty as they say and in turn they curse others with it.
Jean you have addressed one thing that always puzzled me when i look at the photo of u and Masocha. No way a married woman and a pastor can pose like that together, that is way too close for comfort. I wondered who took the photo. If it was your own husband then it's either he's sick in the head or he is gay. Because any normal man would flip at his woman being grabbed like that. Damn.
Anonymous 13:36 continued...
Continued..
By focusing on the protagonist in the current discussion and dismissing her story outright, you are unfortunately ignoring it's moral. Your line of reasoning is akin to saying a prostitute can not found a claim of rape or sexual assault or any other kind of abuse which would be a very dangerous and reckless proposition.
Which brings me to my point.
This Ese Walters case is clearly thread 1(a). She tells us plainly that it was an AFFAIR which at the time she was seduced into having and she wilfully complied but she now realises it was abuse because she has come to her senses. People here are not reading the article correctly because they strongly feel that Ese should have known better from the start. The story needs to be read as a whole to make sense of it. If considered in bits & pieces it obviously sounds absurd and paints the picture of an unwholesome woman trying to embellish a man of God.
The 1 week of blissful hotel escapades has to be interpreted in it's context as a part of the overall affair. Of course she wilfully went to the hotel 7 times because, in her mind or as agreed between them, she was in an affair with him. She was groomed way back in Nigeria starting with her enticement into the curiously named 'Pastoral Care Unit' and the London hotel incident was part of the whole affair. If you look at her going to the hotel several times in isolation then you will obviously see one thing which is a loose woman going back again and again for more. By fixating yourself with the idea of a woman going to a pastor's hotel room for the whole week you are misdirecting yourself and focusing on the wrong issues. She ADMITS to an affair with the pastor so going to his hotel room 7 times was consensual and deliberate .She says once she came to her senses it made her feel abused, ashamed and guilty. Whether we believe that or not is again a different matter open to a separate debate.
to be continued again....
Anonymous 13:36 final part(moral of the Ese article in last paragraph)
Having read this Ese Walters article with an open mind I noticed that, by owning up to the affair, the author's intention is clearly not to garner sympathy for herself but to empower those abused by wolves in sheep's clothing and to warn other women to stay away. If anything the author seems to agree with you all that she should have known better and the good part of it is that ,notwithstanding the fact that she is naming and shaming the pastor, she is not crying wolf but actually warning others to take heed.
The author opens her article with the following statement : "This article contains stories that most ‘church people’ don’t want to address" and goes on to say "I am no longer a victim but a survivor who is sharing her experience to help others caught in same web of abuse, guilt and shame. This is a recap of my affair with Pastor Fatoyinbo. This affair I have come to know as a form of abuse as you would see the different elements of abuse very present."
Note her words Abuse, Shame and Guilt.
This is abuse because the pastor abused his position of authority/ trust to lure her into the affair. Whether she should have been firm enough with her morals and her willpower to resist is, once again, a completely different matter open to debate.
Even if this woman was a whore (as some people here have labelled her)and even if she seduced the pastor herself the bigger blame would still be on the pastor who should never have found himself in such compromising positions. As John Adams says "Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases." So you expect more of a man of God than an ordinary person on the moral front. And this is why the neutrals here and the fair minded sympathise with these so called loose women rather the mighty 'men of God'.
So personally, I think the moral of this article is that whether women are of exacting moral principles or the opposite, if they have had any untoward relationship with their pastor, who should lead by example, they should not be ashamed to own up and come clean so that this cancer in God's house can be nipped in the bud. And to would-be victims the article is shouting please don't fall for it, be on your guard against brainwashing, indoctrination and intimidation and be wary of wolves in sheep's clothing!
In all honesty Masocha is a very very dull actor. From what I have seen and heard from his tapes it would have taken me 5 minutes to discover he was fake if I had been in contact with him. A man who walks over people's clothes as in imparting blessings would have been easy to spot as fake. There are very serious and deadly false prophets in the mould of Andrew Wutawunashe, TD Jakes, Angel Eubert, David Oyedepo, Chris Oyikholome ( Guti excluded because he can't talk eloquently ) the late Myles Munroe ......Honestly some of these false prophets are very dull to say the least ......Munhu anoita zvakapusa kudai ....
If Moses is NINO then Jean is clearly more blessed than we realise! A man who knows how vulnerable women are is GOLD
Musarebese ma comments please, tinenge tiri kubasa. Ingotii ga ga, blog ndera Jean iri, ingorovai ma points ano exposer nhubu yedu Walter. Asi Walter ka, chikomba wakachera here? Judith are you ready to testify against this cheat and liar???
Usadaro iwe. Vakuru vakati Kukurukura hunge wapotswa. Walter akakupa zi hug rake riya makumbo chaiwo anopera simba. Hakusi kupusa takavharwa weduwe.
True that
Will read the story and comment my sister !! Thanks.
Moses!!
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Will read the whole story and comment my sister, thanks!
Moses !!
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Well explained 15:45, Job well done.
1705 your comment/observation or experience is very enlightening as regards the physiological/emotional make up and needs of women...which makes them very vulnerable from those vultures who are aware of this aspect in women.Thsi therefore calls for measures by husbands, brothers, fathers to protect their wives, sisters and daughters from inappropriate contact ...only this week our very own pasteor was teaching on what an appropriate hug should be like and how women should be hugged and not hugged unless of course its one's wife..he also showed what women should do when they are hugged...it was very revealing and helpful...most important ALL WELL meaning ladies should knowing themselves and their weaknesses should take appropriate measures in view of the foregoing to protect themselves from such vultures...our flesh can be very powerful and difficult to control so avoid those bear hugs if it makes you feel weak in the knees...if you let yourself into such a situation your flesh may crave for more and then you find yourself in very difficult situations...then after all is said and done you cry abuse...all im saying is lets us all take responsibility for our actions..lets not pretend that all these pastors are Gods who do not fall into temptation...let us not lead ourselves into temptation neither should we lead these pastors into temptation..above all let us learn to read and understand the biblical principles...check everything taught against the bible to see whether it aligns...irrespective of how powerful your pastor is..coz at the end of the day he is also a man like you who is vulnerable to temptation...
1644 is an example of highjacking of this discourse by the other forces..let us as christians be wary of such forces which come as angels of light..but seek to dicredit everything Christian and everyone who is effective as a worker of God....ndiyo mweya yetsvina which is operating in people like Masocha which then turn around and label every true worker of God as evil and should therfore be avoided..such will end up leading people astray even the elect...be waere of this strategy and tactics of the evil one amongst us...by the way l do not belong to any of those who ve been mentioned's churches...but l ve listened them and know them to be of sound doctrine biblically...they may have their own weaknesses, failures but that does not make them false pro[phets as this contributor would have make us believe
1644 is an example of highjacking of this discourse by the other forces..let us as christians be wary of such forces which come as angels of light..but seek to dicredit everything Christian and everyone who is effective as a worker of God....ndiyo mweya yetsvina which is operating in people like Masocha which then turn around and label every true worker of God as evil and should therfore be avoided..such will end up leading people astray even the elect...be waere of this strategy and tactics of the evil one amongst us...by the way l do not belong to any of those who ve been mentioned's churches...but l ve listened them and know them to be of sound doctrine biblically...they may have their own weaknesses, failures but that does not make them false pro[phets as this contributor would have make us believe
All that level-headed people are saying is very simple; Judging from the eye-witness accounts, self-confessions, and all evidence presented to date, Walter Masocha is evil, a conman and a fraud, and a Gumbura. He is no different from the rest of the Profits who have not been arrested/charged yet. At the same time, using the very same evidence which crucifies Masocha, we find that Jean Gasho and her ilke are just as bad as Masocha. While we thank Jean for making it possible for Masocha to meet his well-deserved fate, we do not condone her behavior (before, during and after the Masocha ordeal) and neither are we hoodwinked by her motives. We are happy to have her deliver Masocha to justice, but that does not make her THE victim (there are more deserving, real victims whose stories are buried for now) or a saint.
In Politics you have people who brand Mugabe evil, the same people find Didymus Mutasa equally evil. Now that Mutasa has broken ranks with Mugabe, level-headed people are happy to see Mutasa calling time on Mugabe, but they still understand that Mutasa is evil and has done some evil things even though he has decided to turn against Mugabe. Mutasa is not receiving any sympathy from anyone just because he has fallen out with Mugabe. Nobody apart from his family thinks of him as a victim or wishes him well. Inside level-headed people's heads, Masocha is Mugabe and Jean is Mutasa.
I hope this clarifies, and once again, please understand that the world is not made up of Jean supporters and Masocha supporters only. There is a level-headed type which never set foot in Agape or any such stupid church. This type sees through both Walter Masocha and Jean Gasho, both are evil and money-hungry, and both take their followers for idiots. Will grab more pop corn now..
Jean, the comments section of the blog needs a re-do. Its so confusing to follow the interesting discussions as it is becoz there is no 'Reply' button to each comment.
Otherwise a big 'Tinotenda' for providing space to share ideas [and vent] on some of these difficult questions around chitendero
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